“I Love Jesus, but I Dont Need Church?!?”

In this hard-hitting and timely episode, Pastor J and Assistant Pastor Kyle sit down to dismantle one of the most popular phrases in modern culture: “I love Jesus, but I don’t need church.”

If you’ve found yourself drifting away from the church or feeling like “online church” is enough, this conversation is a must-listen. The duo doesn’t just preach at the problem; they look at the hard data, the biblical design, and the very real scandals that have caused people to walk away.

They tackle the long wolf fallacy, dysfunction vs design, the body malfunction, the “God factor” being backed by science, scandals and abuse, the importance of being where you’re supposed to be, as well as wisdom and insight for pastors/leaders and safeguards that need to be in place. And…then…an 8 week challenge is given…this is a must-listen episode for sure!

Why listen? Because as the Pastors explain, if you love the Head (Jesus), you cannot reject the Body (The Church). Whether you’re skeptical, hurt, or just comfortable at home, this episode will challenge the way you view life in Christ and involvement in church.

Are you ready to stop wandering and start growing? Join in for this 4th episode!